Questions, questions…!

Nobody should doubt the fact that scores of people are turning their heads nowadays to have a look, at least, at what the new buzz about the “Messiah”, the “Shabbat” and the “Torah” is all about.  And a significant percentage of these are not only turning their heads.  They’ve already made a complete turn about, back to the Scriptural pattern, and have found this change of direction, and change of mindset, to be a turn for the better!  We can already see this paradigm shift, just by looking at the traffic to this site and the kind of questions being asked – both on the Blog page and via email.

Understandably, those who come to this new understanding and appreciation of the Scriptural roots of belief in Messiah, will have a great number of questions in their own minds and hearts.  These kind of questions need to be answered.  Few people will be so naive as to take a “leap of faith” into a way of belief that is without a proper foundation, or even worse, that is just a repetition of the deception of the past.

The questions that are being asked, however, are not only coming from the side of those who have adopted, or plan to adopt, this new “Messianic” or “Scriptural Roots” way of believing.  Perhaps even more questions are coming from the side of those who are standing on the outside, some of them feeling sorry for the poor bunch who allowed themselves to be “deceived”, others feeling guilty for once again being confronted with the fact that they are not really following Scriptures, and a few others feeling jealous and envious for not being fulfilled and satisfied in what they themselves are doing, church-wise and belief-wise.  There are also those ones on the outside who are asking questions because they are genuinely interested and serious about the Word and thus eager to find out more.

Let us start sharing our own questions, and the questions of those on the outside, with one another!  I am sure that we can help one another a great deal in this regard.  Even if we don’t find answers to all questions, at least there will be a combined sense that we are not the only ones asking (or hearing) certain questions and objections.  I would like to encourage all visitors to this site to take part in this discussion – you can even do so anonymously, if you like!

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Robert

WHAT DOES THE BIBLE TEACH ABOUT THE “CURSE” ?

Christians always “grab” the following saying of the church;- “If you return to the law you return to the curse” , have you heard this favorite saying?

Let us examine what is written in the Bible:-

Deu 11:26 Kyk, ek hou julle vandag seën en vloek voor—
Deu 11:27 die seën as julle luister na die gebooie van die HERE julle God wat ek julle vandag beveel;
Deu 11:28 en die vloek as julle nie luister na die gebooie van die HERE julle God nie, maar afwyk van die weg wat ek julle vandag beveel, om agter ander gode aan te loop wat julle nie geken het nie.

Deu 11:26 Behold, I set before you this day a blessing and a curse:
Deu 11:27 the blessing, if you shall listen to the commandments of the LORD your God, which I command you this day;
Deu 11:28 and the curse, if you shall not listen to the commandments of the LORD your God, but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day, to go after other gods, which you have not known.

Gal 3:10(MRC) For as many as are outside of the works of Torah are under a curse. For it is written, “CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO DOES NOT CONTINUE TO DO ALL THINGS WRITTEN IN THE SCROLL OF THE TORAH, TO DO THEM.”

So who is actually under the curse ?

Chris

So baie vrae, so min tyd.

1)Wanneer het die wet ‘n vloek geword. Ek kan nie dink dat daar erens in die Woord na die Torah as ‘n vloek verwys word nie. Inteendeel word dit as iets goeds beskryf.

2)Waar kom die idee van “gered deur genade en nie deur die wet” vandaan.

Robert

Chris Hallo jong !
2)Waar kom die idee van “gered deur genade en nie deur die wet” vandaan.
My vermoede dis dalk hiervandaan?….>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther
“…The most important for Luther was the doctrine of justification – God’s act of declaring a sinner righteous – by faith alone through God’s grace. He began to teach that salvation or redemption is a gift of God’s grace, attainable only through faith in Jesus as the Messiah.

Translation of the Bible
Others had translated the Bible into German, but Luther tailored his translation to his own doctrine. When he was criticised for inserting the word “alone” after “faith” in Romans 3:28, he replied: “It is my Testament and my translation, and it shall continue to be mine”.The result was an evangelical Bible, suited to the emerging Lutheran church…”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther

Robert

Sal die Volk nog kippah en tzitzit dra gedurende die 1000jarige vrederyk?

Num 15:39 “And it shall be to you for a tzitzit, and you shall see it, and shall remember all the commands of Yahweh and shall do them, and not search after your own heart and your own eyes after which you went whoring,
Num 15:40 so that you remember, and shall do all My commands, and be set-apart unto your Elohim.

Heb 8:10 “‘For this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Isra’el after those days,’ says ADONAI: ‘I will put my Torah in their minds and write it on their hearts; I will be their God, and they will be my people.
Heb 8:11 “‘None of them will teach his fellow-citizen or his brother, saying, “Know ADONAI!” For all will know me, from the least of them to the greatest.

Shalom

Adrie Swart

Tehillim 119 says “I delight myself in Your laws..” and “Your commands make me wiser than my enemies”, does not sound like a curse to me.
Do we really need to wear a tzitzit when we have the Word of Yahweh at our fingertips?

Robert

Adrie, Bly tekenne !
Jy skryf ,.> “..Do we really need to wear a tzitzit when we have the Word of Yahweh at our fingertips?..> mooi man jy het raakgesien waarom ek dit geplaas het.
Shalom

Koos

Met respek, ek dink wel so. Daar is geen Torah instruksie wat die gebod ophef nie. En om te redeneer dat die Woord van Yahweh nou inderdaad op ons harte geskrywe is, is ‘n menslike redenasie wat nie Torah as sulks durf “wegneem” nie.
Die een wat nie tsitsit wil dra nie, dis sy persoonlike saak. Die een wat tsitsit wil dra omdat hy/sy spesifiek hierdie opdrag wil gehoorsaam, dis sy persoonlike saak. Die een wat hom fisies laat besny omrede hy dit sien as ‘n teken van sy reeds besnede hart, pragtig. Die ander een wat meen hierdie Avrahamitiese verbondsteken is nie relevant en het nie te make met sy reeds besnede hart nie, pragtig. Die Ruach werk met elkeen van ons indiwidueel, maar op die einde van die dag geskied Sy Wil in Alles.
Ek persoonlik is totaal anti dogma. Die enigste “dogma” wat ek aanhang is die Torah, wat insluit die Afgesonderde Naam van die Skepper, dis ononderhandelbaar. Die Torah (dekaloog saam met die Lev. 23 Feeste van YHWH). Hoe iemand die nuwe maand bepaal, is op die stadium irrelevant. As jy Trompette op die Shabbat hou, en ek op die 6de dag (hipoteties) gaan ek net so lekker met jou “fellowship” oor die wonder wat die Ruach ons op die betrokke feesdag laat beleef het,(al was dit op verskillende dae) onderskeidelik. Baie vrede en seën.

Robert

Koos, jy skryf..> “Hoe iemand die nuwe maand bepaal, is op die stadium irrelevant.”
Beskryf die Torah dan nie hoe die Feesdae bepaal moet word nie? Lees weer Lev. 23
As die instruksie dan is om GEEN werk op die spesifiek genoemde dag te doen nie, en ek voel dat ek daardie Feesdag wil skuif na die eerste dag van week, sodat ek nie verlof hoef in te sit by my werkgewer nie, is ek dan nie besig om my eie “oral Torah” op te stel nie?
Shalom

Robert

Kan julle aanduiding gee wanneer Yom Teruah begin hierdie jaar asseblief.
Shalom